You must be logged in to reply to this topic. I guess you could say I went into this evaluation with high hopes and low expectations. / 0.516 kg Stuffed size: 8 x 15.5 in / 20.5 x 39.5 cm; Cosmic Down 20 Right Hand. Limit one discount code per order. So why was the bag cold on one night? (Regular Size) 2 lbs. Void where prohibited, taxed or otherwise restricted. BACKPACKING LIGHT® and the FEATHER/MOUNTAIN icon are registered trademarks granted for exclusive use to Beartooth Media Group, Inc. ShortTemp Rating: 20° / -7°CEN Comfort Limit: 19° F / -7° CFits to: 5 ft 6 in / 167 cmTotal weight: 2 lb 3.9 oz / 1.019 kgFill weight: 16.26 oz. Find out what gear our guides recommend if you want lightweight gear that is durable and versatile. It weighs maybe 12 to 16 ounces more than a bag that costs nearly four times as much… and the Cosmic Down 20 is only using 550 fill down! An additional layer would help. Ive had two with different insulations after reading the reveiws in backpacker years back they were initially fairly warm but lost loft and warmth fast although as I mentioned in another thread maybe if I had been gentler stuffing they might have lasted longer. You can also earn the same credit any time you invite a friend and they make their first purchase). We have the right to end or modify any promotion at any time. Price $170 at Amazon. Viewing 25 posts - 1 through 25 (of 26 total), Forums are supported by our merchant partners (. Membership Sales & Support: 406-640-HIKE (406-640-4453) |, http://www.campmor.com/kelty-cosmic-20-degree-sleeping-bag-regular-1.shtml?source=CI&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=41952, https://www.theclymb.com/invite-from/mountainwalker, http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?bo=watch&forum_thread_id=39138, Our Lightweight Gear Recommendations for REI Members, Backpacking Courses, Webinars & Other Events. Promotions have no cash value. While realizing that some people on BPL use low-rated R-value sleeping pads, for example, I used the same pads I always do. No, they’re not of the same quality as a WM bag, but the build construction is much, much higher than what I’ve seen in other bags near this price range. Although I agree that metric is better, I don't think that way, and want to scream every time I read a Roger Caffin article where I need to convert. All offers are limited to stock on hand; no backorders or rainchecks are available. Trips with days in the 40s or 50s F and nights in the 20s or 30s F would be fine with the Cosmic Down 20, and frankly those are conditions most backpackers are more likely to encounter. Broomfield, CO 80021, International Customers: We Are Currently Shipping to USA Only, Soft, butter-like, but durable 20D Nylon taffeta shell, 50D Polyester taffeta liner that’s like satin sheets on your skin, 60 in. Fill weight: 18.2 oz. It doesn't compress as well as some of my other bags, and I chalk this up to the substantial material used. For such a cheap bag, could the shell material really be light enough to offset the extra weight of 550 fill? Wow….a $100 Marmot bag? I was back and forth for about a month on to get this bag or the Kelty lightyear XP 20. The three-quarter-length zipper has proven to be a true three-quarter-length zipper… it seems like many companies’ “three-quarter zips” are closer to half zips to me. My wife got me the XP because I told her I wanted that one, then changed my mind, but she had already ordered it. Is the Kelty Cosmic Down 20 a true bargain, or should backpackers on a budget save for a more expensive bag? I was a bit perplexed. In order to properly assess the canopy right out of the box, we set it up in our backyard, … However, if you’re shopping on a budget, the Kelty Cosmic 20 … Instead I woke up warm, cozy, and smiling somewhat late the next morning. 0 reviews. Many new hikers need a decent lightweight bag but (understandably) don't want to shell out $400, so they end up with giant synthetic bags of dubious quality and warmth. 8 oz. the higher cost items. wish I could find one of those. Now to make a an overbag for winter for it. Water-resistant down insulation and an array of features make this sleeping bag a great combination of value … Discount codes are not valid on prior purchases, cannot be used after their expiration dates, and do not apply to taxes, shipping and processing charges. “Huh,” I thought. True to its name, the Kelty Cosmic 20 Sleeping Bag loves being out under the stars. The zipper draft tube is surprisingly well filled, and the zipper runs freely. The regular one weighs 2 pounds 4 ounces with a fill weight … First thing first: It’s a $100.00 DOWN sleeping bag. Lo and behold I was at TJ Maxx this last saturday and picked up the Cosmic 20 for $50! And the author was still cold even with a second and better bag over the top. It's certainly an excellent value, and anyone on a budget should seriously consider it. One is the alpine 40, a strictly summer bag. Night falls, but the loft of the bag is relatively inspiring. Yet another pleasant surprise from the Cosmic Down 20. i dont know why i wouldnt just pick up a cats meow for $120-$140 or so, its roughly a similar weight … and its synthetic to boot …, glad to see BPL looking at value though …, "i dont know why i wouldnt just pick up a cats meow for $120-$140 or so". The loft seems a bit uneven, particularly in the hood, which is where I had the most trouble. Anyone on a limited budget who’s in the market for a good all ‘round sleeping bag. I'm pretty picky about sleeping bags, and I actually found this to be comparable to some $250 bags that I've owned. 18.2 ounces (516 grams) of that weight is the down filling. Although I normally roll over with the bag (kind of wearing it as I roll over to sleep on my side), I found myself turning inside the Cosmic Down 20 to keep the bottom surface down. A night in the hammock (with a DownMat under me) down to the mid twenties found me, yet again, warm and toasty. EDIT to include that we were both on mats/pads that provided a sufficient R value. Cosmic 20 Synthetic Kelty Cosmic 0 Synthetic Kelty Tuck 20 Kelty Mistral 0 Kelty Mistral 20 Temperature Rating (F): 20 0 20 0 20 Insulation: Cirroloft Synthetic Cirroloft Synthetic Thermapro Synthetic Cloudloft … That's $30 less than what campmor wanted. Who should buy the Cosmic Down 20? A piece of gear doesn't have to be the best in any one area to be great. All that said, my goal was to emphasize real-world, practical findings… more so "Does it work as advertised" than "What do the specs say," ya know? (Regular Size) 2 lbs. Kelty upgraded their liner materials for a softer hand, and the bag feels lofty and cozy. 1 oz. The author/Backpacking Light has no obligation to review this product to the manufacturer under the terms of this agreement. I see the bag working particularly well for those who would benefit from other gear upgrades… perhaps the $300 “savings” of the Cosmic D could be put toward a new backpack or tent that would save a few pounds. tax. The Kelty Cosmic Down 20 is considered the classic entry level down backpacking sleeping bag. “Huh,” I thought again. Weight … Thanks so much for pointing this bag out, I'm just getting into backpacking and this thing is literally a steal for $80! If you want and expect greatness from your equipment, this isn’t your bag. So a Kelty Cosmic Down 20* F bag costs $80 and the cheapest I can find a Light Year 20*F is around $160. The loft of the sleeping bag is… not bad. Maybe it looks a little lumpy? It does not have the distinctly reassuring appearance of, say, Western Mountaineering bags and their slightly overstuffed baffles. Although I can fluff the hood to get some more down into the area, the neck region of the hood habitually shifts down out of the neck region and toward the head. Whether there’s sun, rain, or snow outside your backpacking tent, you can be confident you’ll stay warm and dry in the Kelty Cosmic Down 20 … First, it comes with a substantial stuff sack, and you could get rid of an ounce by using an ultralight sack. College students or Scouts might want to take a look at the Cosmic Down 20. Something for everyone: Basic, Premium, and Unlimited Membership options available. Despite temps bottoming out in the low twenties, I slept warm and cozy for that weekend and the next. After reading reviews, we found the Cosmic in "short" which fits to 5'4" and weight 2lb.3oz. First thing first: It’s a $100.00 DOWN sleeping bag. The newer version (green, $99.98)has 550-fill power down (duck or goose not specified), and slant baffle construction. Huh! Temperature Rating; 20°F. It was only cold on the night after a really cold day. Offer cannot be sold or otherwise bartered. I'll be pointing people at this story — thanks for making it publicly accessible. I lucked out and got an REI sub kilo for $90 when they stopped manufacturing them, and it remains my favorite lightweight bag, but the Kelty is certainly decent, especially for the price. It's nice to see another good bargain article. Walking from my back door to the tent on a night in the high 30s I shivered a little, and thought to myself that I’d probably be headed back for the house halfway through the night. I’m not gonna lie: It isn’t a sexy bag. The skeptic in my head immediately said “Yeah, it’ll weigh five pounds and be good for 60 F (16 C).” But the sleeping bag only weighs two and a half pounds, and it’s been EN tested for 20 F / -7 C. Well, that clinched my curiosity. The bag comes in two sizes: regular and long. Not yet rated. I had essentially been coasting through the previous lows on the borrowed heat of the day. Big Agnes Zirkel SL 20-Degree sleeping bag has a down filling which is water repellant and will keep you very warm and cozy. It fit our 5'5" tester well, and she had enough room to put on additional layers without it feeling too restrictive. Kelty Cosmic Down 20 Marmot Helium Down Nemo Disco 15 Therm-a-Rest Questar 20; Average Weight: 2 lb. Receive new Members-only content, gain access to 2,000+ articles in the archives, and become a part of the most passionate community of backpacking experts in the world. building up my gear slowly, buying a couple items a year. The point, of course, is that to determine if a manufacturer's rating is accurate, it wouldn't be appropriate to use a lower R-value pad than they use for testing. A hundred bucks for a down bag?! / 0.461 kgStuffed size: 7 x 15.5 in / 18 x 39.5 cm, LongTemp Rating: 20° / -7°CEN Comfort Limit: 19° F / -7° CFits to: 6 ft 6 in / 198 cmTotal weight: 2 lb 10.7 oz / 0.461 kgFill weight: 20.88 oz. I’ve found that using pads with barely adequate insulation can dramatically decrease the performance of a bag, therefore I used pads with R-values ranging from 5 to 8 (yeah, I know the 8 is high, but I have the pad, it’s comfy, and I love it) for all my field evaluations. Subscribe here. Kelty Cosmic 20 Weight and Size. dual-slider, locking zipper with anti-snag design, Keep the cold out and the heat in with draft collar & comfort hood, Stuff it when you’re on the go-sack included, PFC-Free DWR coating is better for you and the environment. Lol. The material is pretty rugged, overkill in my opinion, but at least the down won't poke through like it can with polyester taffeta. To compare the loft of the bags, a useful calculation is to multiply the fill rating by the fill amount: WM = 850 cubic inches per ounce x 16 ounces = 13,600 cubic inches of down We were quite warm (I was too warm) with base layers, fleece top and balaclava, a hand warmer in the foot box for good measure. I am on the lookout for a bag/quilt that is lighter, however. http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?bo=watch&forum_thread_id=39138. 3 oz. I put in a few summer trips with it and a fall trip which was still rather comfortable – in the 30s. I didn’t want to start from scratch warming up the zero degree bag, so I pulled it over me quilt-style and hunkered down for the rest of the night. Because on previous nights when it was cold and the bag sufficed, the ground had been a lot warmer to start with, from the warm daytimes. $169.95 $127.46 Excl. Kelty Cosmic 20. (Regular Size) 2 lbs. There are definitely some thinner spots in loft, particularly on the bottom of the bag, but overall I’m pretty pleased. The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a comfortable sleeping bag that provides reasonable warmth for most of the year-round … is the down ethical? Also note that there have been some great threads correlating sleeping pad R-value to temperature & sleeping bag rating. My previous experiences with the bag had all been during warm days, with highs perhaps in the forties and bottoming out in the twenties in the middle of the night. With a 600-fill-power, the Kelty Cosmic 20 won’t be the most insulated bag on the list. Just ordered one. / 1.3 kg ; Stuffed Size: 16" x 9.5" / 41 x 24 cm; Long. If I had used a lower-rated pad, I wouldn't have had a good comparative baseline. How could it? “This thing might actually be legitimate.” I shook my head. I had imagined wrestling a behemoth into a stuff sack, but it easily stuffed into a 10 liter dry sack. Next up after warmth is weight and size. For those interested in such things, Casey's calculation on loft can be a good starting point… However, for the numbers to be accurate that calculation assumes that the amount of down is going into the same-cut sleeping bag shell & that the shell fabric is the same weight. It's a little tight in the stomach/hip area, but some of my other bags have this same issue. BTW i really like the lower cost reviews $100 was all i had for a bag and i ended up find this one onsale for $50. (Regular Size) 2 lbs. I didn’t have much faith in the ability of its underside insulation. They both say that they have "600 fill power dry down" same weight … Although I was game to experiment and had gained healthy respect for the Cosmic Down 20, I took along a 0 F / -18 C bag as a backup. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw it. Note the hood and shoulder region “tummy tuck” on the CD 20; I wish there were more down in this region. It's not a bad bag for the money. (Regular Size) Average Weight … We are stoked on the price and quality of this item, and we're now recommending it to other Scouts. Down distribution in the baffles is more adequate than some $200 down bags I’ve handled. Free shipping on many items ... $20.00 shipping. All together you get a 20 degree bag that will keep you comfortable three seasons a year. Regular sleeping bags make me feel like I'm being held hostage. On its own for me it is not warm enough for winter but too warm for most summer nights (at low altitude) so it's more of a shoulder season and Sierra Nevada bag. Ken Strayer noted that EN standards for testing at 20*F use an R-5 value pad; by comparison, R-2 for 50*F and R-3 for 40*F. I can't find the post right now, but I seem to recall these numbers being supported in another thread by Mr. Nisley. The bag I have (and yes it is the blue one) doesn't seem to loft as well as the one pictured in this article, but it was still fairly warm. Guaranteed by Mon, Jul 20. I bought a $100 down bag made by Marmot that is made specifically for Dick's Sporting Goods. ie not live plucked? If you want a spare bag, or even if you’ll be spending more time afield, this would be a durable option for the same price as value-priced synthetic bags. If you aren't already a member, you can sign up with this link https://www.theclymb.com/invite-from/mountainwalker (I get a $10 credit to apply to gear when a friend I've invited makes a purchase, at no cost to you. Does the bag do what it’s supposed to do? As I waited for what I was sure would be an overweight package, I psyched myself up for some very cold nights. It wasn’t until that morning when I got up and moved around for awhile that I really warmed up. And hey, the good news is that it DOES work pretty much as advertised. The real question, then, “Should everyone buy this bag?”. If I were headed on a trip and expected a narrow range of temperature variation, hovering around 20 F / -7 C, the Cosmic Down 20 isn’t the bag I would take. It easily fits in his pack, is almost two pounds lighter than his synthetic bag, came in a Scout green color(ho ho) and he loves it. Kelty = 550 cubic inches per ounce x 20 ounces = 11,000 cubic inches of down. The skeptic in my head immediately said “Yeah, it’ll weigh five pounds and be good for 60 F (16 C).” But the sleeping bag only weighs two and a half pounds, and it’s been EN tested for 20 F / -7 C. Well, that clinched my curiosity. Now if we could just find a $150, sub 3-pound, double wall tent ;). A late fall/early winter overnighter was forecasted with single-digit temperatures. While I … I am exactly the guy you are talking about: Just getting into hiking, camping, kayaking, etc. “Nah, it won’t loft for beans.”. My husband and I recently tested the 9-foot Kelty Noah’s Tarp (which is also available in 12-, 16-, and 20-foot options). There is a passive top draft collar in the Cosmic Down 20, an insulated tube that hangs from the top of the bag to block air movement. It compares to the much more expensive marmot sawtooth. Temperature rating: 20°F Weight: 2 lbs. Does the lumpy appearance belie the bag’s performance? I’m not a huge fan of equipment surprises when I’m in the backcountry, so I first test almost all new equipment in the backyard. most trips. Got the new Green one for $79. Its fill weight ranges from 18.2 to 33.3 ounces depending on the style purchased. Thank you for the review and specifically for using English and metric units. Dick's without an proper caps is profanity here! kelty cosmic down 20 sleeping bag size long, brand new with tags 180.00. 0 … Thanks for your responses! It looks like a really nice bag for the price. But the Cosmic Down 20 lofts well enough, even better than many. Big Agnes Zirkel SL 20-Degree. The Kelty Cosmic 20 is a 3-season sleeping bag with DriDown™ to defend against moisture and dry quickly when wet. The zipper is sturdy, but not as smooth and it caught on one of the tie-down straps a couple of times. $180.00 + $14.00 shipping In this one: Just got this on sale from Campmor a few days ago, and thought I would share my experience with it. or Best Offer. Is the blue one featured here the older version of the bag? A hundred bucks for a down bag?! ... Kelty Cosmic – Women’s +20 Degree Bag Review By Matt K. • Camp. … Returns of any portion of the purchase will require equal forfeiture of offer or amount equal to offer. Fill: 600-fill down. Weight: 2.9 oz. Home › Forums › Kelty Cosmic Down 20 Sleeping Bag Review. If you’re counting ounces, you could save three-quarters of a pound by going to an 850-fill bag. Any reason for the difference in price besides a few ounces of difference in weight … Hope it becomes a trend. Just thought I would point out that Campmor has these in regular length for $80 right now: http://www.campmor.com/kelty-cosmic-20-degree-sleeping-bag-regular-1.shtml?source=CI&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=41952. This will definitely go on the list for the Scout troop. Fill Weight: 30.5 oz. Things sure go fast in the Gear Swap! Maybe when I have loads of cash hanging around I'll buy something betterlighter but for the budget minded person this bag is ideal. I also noted that the material doesn't breathe as well as most higher priced bags, and condensation was a little more than I like. I'll second this review. I gotta say, the shell doesn’t look too bad under flash light. I tend to sleep warm, and I was just slightly chilled at 30 degrees with mid weight base layers, and a balaclava. Excellent review, thank you. There is nothing outwardly impressive about this bag in appearance, but it works. Nice article. Just used part of my REI dividend to buy a long. Kelty Cosmic Down 20 Right Hand. Free Shipping offer is valid in the US lower 48 states only, and is not available for PO Boxes or Military For its weight, the Kelty Cosmic 20 is surprisingly light at just 2 pounds 6.6 ounces (1.093 kilos) for the regular version. Msrp is 139 but I got it on sale for 100. What was the pad, and could we get a repeat test with a warmer pad? Offers only apply to the United States unless otherwise noted. Sleep snug and sound on subfreezing fall nights in the men's Kelty Cosmic 20 sleeping bag. I can think of a few reasons. But thanks to refinements like our NEW soft-as-silk nylon taffeta fabric and a handy stash pocket for your headlamp/chapstick/actual stash, you’ll be daydreaming about more QT in the outdoors. The bag should really have some more down in that area, or use an additional baffle. Just for grins, a comparison shot of the Cosmic Down 20 alongside a Western Mountaineering Ultralite. by Brad Groves on March 22, 2011 Performance Gear Reviews. Throw it in your pack and you have an extra layer when you need it. This bag is 2X the cost as the "Kelty Cosmic 20 Sleeping Bag Synthetic: 20F Down - Women's" When I read the tech details I can not tell why this one is more expensive. TheClymb by the way has this bag on sale for only $50 right now. / 1.211 kgStuffed size: 8 x 16.5 in / 20.5 x 42 cm, Insulation:600 fill power DriDown™Shell material:20D Nylon Taffeta Shell With PFC-Free DWRLiner material:50D Polyester Taffeta Liner, Environmental & health friendly PFC-Free DWR and 600 fill Dridown, Stuffed size: 8 x 15.5 in / 20.5 x 39.5 cm, 1 International Court, Whether your an … Other restrictions may apply. This sleeping bag by Kelty Cosmic is designed to keep you warm and dry in temperatures down to 20 degrees F. 500 fill DriDown and full draft tube collar ensure heat will remain sealed in tight. A few comments about the discussion… Field testing a sleeping bag for relative/comparable warmth is an inherently subjective undertaking, so I eliminated as many variables as possible. I’ve never found the need to do that, but they’re there if you’re so inclined. You can also get a slightly different perspective on loft here. The two pads I used for testing were the Thermarest Women's Trail Pro (R-5.1) & Exped DownMat 9 (R-8). That night wasn’t significantly colder than several others, when I had been warm using the same pad and clothing combo. Thanks for the great article, very timely find for a friend who is just getting into backpacking. Buy One Get One offers apply a portion of discount amount to each of the items. Good article. The one I got was the alpine adventurer 15. Our Verdict. / .86 kg; Total Weight: 2 lb. son's pack for him, but didn't want to break the bank to do it. It was clear that all variables were unchanged except for the daytime/nighttime temperature swing. That’s not to say I trusted the rating yet, but the bag kept me warm on progressively cooler nights, including one that dipped into the twenties. I picked up one of these (they were called the Kelty Lite Trekker 20* then) last summer for about $80 at Target and have used it on several trips with nights as cold as 17 (I did bring a fleece liner for that night though). If someone’s new to backpacking and trying to put together their whole kit, this sleeping bag is a good bargain. “That actually feels about right.” Out of the box and onto the scale: my size regular Cosmic Down 20 weighs 2 pounds 9.6 ounces, 1.6 ounces over spec, but hey, that’s still pretty good. Then I realized that what had changed wasn’t so much the low temperature, but the high temperature of the day. The night I slept cold had been in the mid twenties all day and dropped even lower that night. This shows the WM has 1.24 times the loft of the Kelty. Fill Weight 39 oz / 1.09 kg 44 oz / 1.23 kg 46 oz / 1.29 kg Total Weight 3 lb 14 oz / 1.74 kg 4 lb 7 oz / 1.99 kg 4 lb 12 oz / 2.13 kg Length 78 in / 198 cm 84 in / 213 cm Now that you’ve had the full tour, let’s take a look at some real-world performance. On Campmor – The old version (blue, $79.98) seems to be an ounce heavier, has 550-fill duck down, is 2 inches longer and has box-baffle construction. We think this bag would be comfortable for ladies up t… I got another on sale at Target for $60 and my girlfriend and I each used these down to the low 20's this February. Download the Backpacking Light Handbook to help you make intelligent decisions about gear, skills, ultralight philosophy, and reducing your pack weight. That night only dropped to about 15 F / -9 C, but I woke up perhaps five hours into the night, feeling particularly cold. The Kelty Cosmic 20 Degree sleeping bag is ideal for 3-season backpacking and camping. Why would I suggest this? They could have extended the zipper another foot for about an ounce, but oh well. In fact, I can't think of another down bag in this price range, especially at this weight. From campgrounds by the lake to weekend backpacking treks in the mountains, you've got three-season performance to … The hood is a bit large, and it took quite some futzing to get it cinched down appropriately, with the draw cord system causing a bit of frustration. Now, thanks to a slew of upgrades, you can get your hands on a legit UNICORN—with “pony pricing” still in play. ISO Temp Rating (Comfort): 32° / 0°C; ISO Temp Rating (Limit): 22° / -6°C; Fits to: 6’ 6" / 198 cm; Length: 84” / 213 cm; Shoulder Width: 32" / 81 cm; Fill Weight: 33 oz / .95 kg; Total Weight: … Stay super warm at night. There are two at Dick's. We think the latest version of the Cosmic is quite comfortable. 6 oz. I think, though, that I'll continue to save up for a Montbell spiral down sleeping bag – I thrash around a lot when I sleep and I find regular (i.e., non-stretchy) bags to be too confining and claustrophobic. Is the Kelty Cosmic Down 20 a true bargain, or should backpackers on a budget save for a more expensive bag? With the Cosmic, Kelty … Given that the two bags compared have a difference of 3" in shoulder girth, and have different-weight shells, the actual "loft ratio," if we were to call it that, would be more in favor of the Western bag. The R-8 pad, sufficient for subzero *F temperatures, was the pad I used on the cold-sleeping night in the teens. 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